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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the first clear use of the name "Palestine" was in the 5th century B.C. by Ancient Greek historian Herodotus?



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The 1750 map did not gain consensus per the various comments above, so I have added back the original svg map.

I understand that the svg map is preferred as it illustrates various periods, but could be simplified in certain areas and the color differential made clearer. Perhaps others could comment here, and once we have a clear set of changes agreed, we can improve the map further. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:38, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will repeat my proposal here then to remove the dashed green lines and keep everything else as is. This way we will have three definitions:
1- ancient Palestine (Palestina I + II in green)
2- modern Palestine (Mandatory Palestine in red)
3- official Palestine (1967 borders in blue). Makeandtoss (talk) 11:05, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Make&toss. Zerotalk 14:43, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The map should be made larger to show all of Mandatory Palestine. Excluding Jordan from it is ahistorical. Spencer707201 (talk) 19:42, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Historical boundaries of Palestine
@Makeandtoss and Zero0000: How about this? Onceinawhile (talk) 15:55, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect, an improvement despite the small risk of OR for the green line. Makeandtoss (talk) 16:12, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's good. The fine blue line could be made more prominent but it isn't necessary. Zerotalk 01:19, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just realized I have been confusing two things together; the Roman province of Syria Palestina and the Byzantine provinces of Palestina I and II. I thought they were the same thing. Since they are different, wouldn't it make sense just to have Roman province of Syria Palestina, as this would eliminate the OR risk when combing the Byzantine provinces I and II? Also how sure are we of the eastern borders of Syria Palestina, was it really the Jordan River? Makeandtoss (talk) 08:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a good question and the heart of the challenge. Looking at the detail within Timeline of the name Palestine, you can see that Wikipedia's suggestion that the Roman province was formally called "Syria Palestina" - as opposed to just "Palestina" - has no primary evidence, as both names were in use at the time. I suspect the SP name in scholarly works came originally from the existence of the name on this Louvre diploma (published at the end of the 19th century).
Equally, the borders moved around over time, and there are no fixed lines. The best we can do is identify the best scholarly sources with these borders in them across all the available periods. Onceinawhile (talk) 14:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We can go with the borders used at the Syria Palaestina's article, i.e. the Jordan River. Updating the green borders to these ones should be the last improvement possible and the best outcome of this lengthy discussion. Makeandtoss (talk) 20:39, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you please just modify “The holy land of israel” and you make it seem like israel is a country but not Palestine.🇵🇸 Sam9472 (talk) 01:59, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Kline • talk • contribs 03:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hebrew

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Is "אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל" = Palestine? We should probably use "פָּלֶשְׂתִּינָה‎" or "פָלַסְטִין‎", no? IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 18:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Palestine first called this in 5bc

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So what was it called before hand? This whole article is missing information let me help you with that it is the greek word for Israel why are we not mentioning the original name? 108.27.235.48 (talk) 21:01, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bring a reliable source that states the region was called "Israel" in Greek prior to the 5th century BCE (NB: very different from 5 BC), and this information can be added. In the meantime, you might benefit from reading WP:NOTAFORUM. Evan (talk|contribs) 21:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
here you go on the kids national geographic site(https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/geography/countries/article/israel#:~:text=The%20Israelites%20fought%20for%20200,MODERN%20HISTORY) also what was it called in the bible? ever heard of it never mentions palestine but it mentions Israel and Canaan again this should be in this article 108.27.235.48 (talk) 21:11, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
From that source (which is neither academic nor appropriate to cite in an encyclopedia):

Abraham fled from Mesopotamia (now the country of Iraq) to Canaan

The Israelites fought for 200 years for control of Canaan

Around 5 B.C., this land became known as Palestine; the people who called it home were known as Palestinians.

Between 1920 and 1948, the United Kingdom controlled Palestine

We have two entire articles Kingdom of Israel for the period of time during which a northern segment of Palestine (never the entirety of the region) was referred to as "Israel." This article is not about that, as you may or (probably) may not have been able to tell from the title. Please take your nationalist race-baiting elsewhere. Evan (talk|contribs) 21:16, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I took a whole 5 minutes to find you this source we can get you more academic sources but again not listing the other names seems to misleading and where is the link to the kingdom of israel? this arctile is ignoring the real history of the land how can you have an article on "Palestine" without mentioning the other names and the whole history of the name Palestine and the origin of the word palestine why was the region ever called palestine? who named it this what was it called by the people at the time it was called that who lived there at the time? etc etc this article is full of wholes 108.27.235.48 (talk) 21:42, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The word "Israel" appears five times in the lede alone. If you're requesting a change to the article, it's incumbent on you to answer questions (with reliable sources and with punctuation, if possible) rather than asking them. In addition, the children's source you provided says nothing like what you claimed—that Palestine was referred to as "Israel" in Greek prior to the 5th century BCE. You seem to be angry that there is an article about the historical region of Palestine that does not place one of its many ethnic groups as the privileged determiner of what the region is called. That is not my or anyone else's problem but yours. Evan (talk|contribs) 21:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Evan you seem to be angry I am just mentioning this is missing historical context. there is a long history before it was ever had a name called Palestine. It was called this by a foreign power not the people that actually lived in the region and the people that called themselves Palestinian is a very recent as in this article on wikipedia mentions "In modern times, the first person to self-describe Palestine's Arabs as "Palestinians" was Khalil Beidas in 1898, followed by Salim Quba'in and Najib Nassar in 1902." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians#:~:text=For%20some%2C%20the%20term%20%22Palestinian,up%20to%20the%20Ottoman%20period.) 108.27.235.48 (talk) 22:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What change to the article are you proposing, and what reliable sources are you citing to support it? Evan (talk|contribs) 22:11, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I propose changing it actually include all the information about the land if i get time i can try to propose a more full idea but the article in its current state is not mentioning the full history and why it was even called Palestine in the first place.
using that same article i mentioned before Palestianians it offers a better history also not complete but "When the Romans conquered the region in the first century BCE, they used the name Judaea for the province that covered most of the region. At the same time, the name Syria Palestina continued to be used by historians and geographers to refer to the area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, as in the writings of Philo, Josephus and Pliny the Elder. During the early 2nd century CE, Syria Palaestina became the official administrative name in a move viewed by scholars as an attempt by emperor Hadrian to disassociate Jews from the land as punishment for the Bar Kokhba revolt. Jacobson suggested the change to be rationalized by the fact that the new province was far larger. The name was thenceforth inscribed on coins, and beginning in the fifth century, mentioned in rabbinic texts. The Arabic word Filastin has been used to refer to the region since the time of the earliest medieval Arab geographers. It appears to have been used as an Arabic adjectival noun in the region since as early as the 7th century." Actually this whole article on the Palestinians is better all around (Even though personally I think it would be better if they focused a little more on that it wasnt till recently that a Palestinian is referred to an Arab living in that region where it was for a long time a person living in that region 108.27.235.48 (talk) 00:36, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Israelite settlement

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@Peter coxhead: concerning your revert. The article is a stub to be expanded (which is why it needs to be linked to, to attract more attention), but both the article and the sentence here are about the same phenomenon of the Israelite settlement increase in the 12th century BCE, and they both use the same source, Finkelstein's book. Please, revert back. Triggerhippie4 (talk) 08:54, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Triggerhippie4: I still think that linking from this often contentious article to one that is flagged as having multiple issues is unwise. Let Israelite highland settlement reach a settled consensus first. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:17, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Peter coxhead: There's no lack of consensus in that article, it's just short - that's why it's flagged. Triggerhippie4 (talk) 21:16, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Please consider substituting the following edit for neutrality and to add citations not currently included:

The earliest known reference to Palestine as a geographic region appears in ‘’The Histories’’ of Herodotus, written in the 5th century BCE, which refers to a district called ‘‘Palaistine’’ located between Phoenicia and Egypt.Herodotus (1998). The Histories. Translated by Robin Waterfield. Oxford University Press. p. 349. ISBN 9780192835826. The name likely derives from Philistia, referring to the coastal region inhabited by the Philistines from approximately the 12th to the 7th century BCE.Killebrew, Ann E. (2005). Biblical Peoples and Ethnicity: An Archaeological Study of Egyptians, Canaanites, Philistines, and Early Israel, 1300–1100 B.C.E. Society of Biblical Literature. ISBN 9781589830974. The area later became part of various ancient kingdoms, including Israel and Judah.

In the 1st century CE, the Roman Empire established the province of Judaea.Goodman, Martin (2008). Rome and Jerusalem: The Clash of Ancient Civilizations. Penguin. p. 47. ISBN 9780140291278. Following the Bar Kokhba revolt in 132 CE, the Romans merged Judaea with parts of neighboring provinces and renamed the area Syria Palaestina, possibly in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land.Smallwood, E. Mary (1976). The Jews Under Roman Rule. Brill. pp. 454–455. ISBN 9789004045528. {{cite book}}: Check |isbn= value: checksum (help) During the Byzantine period, beginning in the 4th century, the region was reorganized into three provinces: Palaestina Prima, Palaestina Secunda, and Palaestina Tertia.Avi-Yonah, Michael (2002). The Holy Land: A Historical Geography. Continuum International. pp. 104–106. ISBN 9780826460482. {{cite book}}: Check |isbn= value: checksum (help)

After the Muslim conquest of the Levant in the 7th century, the region was incorporated into the Rashidun Caliphate as part of the military district known as Jund Filastin.Le Strange, Guy (1890). Palestine Under the Moslems. Alexander P. Watt. pp. 7–8. Over the following centuries, Palestine was governed by a succession of Islamic caliphates, including the Umayyads, Abbasids, and Fatimids. The area was later contested during the Crusades and came under the control of the Ayyubids, and then the Mamluks in the 13th century.Kennedy, Hugh (2001). Crusader Castles. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 9780521420686. In 1516, it was incorporated into the Ottoman Empire, under which it remained until the early 20th century.Karpat, Kemal H. (2001). The Ottoman Empire: The Rise, Organization and Structure of the Ottoman State. University of Central Arkansas Press.

Following the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in World War I, the British occupied the region during the Sinai and Palestine campaign. The League of Nations granted Britain a mandate to administer the area, creating the geopolitical entity known as the British Mandate for Palestine from 1920 to 1948.Caplan, Neil (2010). The Israel-Palestine Conflict: Contested Histories. Wiley-Blackwell. ISBN 9781405188142. During this period, tensions grew between the Jewish and Arab populations, culminating in the 1947–1949 Palestine war. The war led to the declaration of the State of Israel and the division of the remaining territory, with the West Bank coming under Jordanian control and the Gaza Strip under Egyptian administration.Morris, Benny (2008). 1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War. Yale University Press. ISBN 9780300126969.

In the aftermath of the 1967 Six-Day War, Israel occupied both the West Bank and Gaza Strip. These territories have remained central to the ongoing Israeli–Palestinian conflict. The boundaries and political status of Palestine continue to be the subject of international debate and negotiation."The Question of Palestine". United Nations. Retrieved 2025-04-10. 70.55.212.76 (talk) 22:52, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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